Originally by: Sidrat Flush

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Remove local and use Constellation instead. Sorted.

Have Constellation channel delayed as well just because they can. This should be across the board with no special treatment.

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Originally by: Miso Hawnee

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Originally by: Miilla

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Originally by: Nadine Le'****

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Edited by: Nadine Le''**** on 19/03/2011 14:22:43
can we agree on the term non-instant, and get rid of 'delayed'?
thats very confusing for newer players i guess, that didn't follow the discussion thats ongoing for years now.

and to the OPs suggestion: no, as always :)
i read a nice recommendation some days ago, which basically meant turning player names into "unknown" until the speak in local, leaving local as instant as it is. yes won't get rid of the botters problem, but that's CCPs job anyway to deal in another way.

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That wont stop alerting corps to an invasion as the local count spikes up.

We want supprise attacks to really be a supprise :) It is up to them to scout the gates to get an early warning.

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Its called A Covert Cyno.

Also there is the option of Titan Bridging.


Otherwise all I see in this thread is:

TEARS I can't pwn ratting ships all day. END TEARS

Form a proper gang with proper ships and go push their **** in, otherwise stop whining.

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Originally by: Kaedama Katar

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Edited by: Kaedama Katar on 25/03/2011 08:59:54
Right now Eve is like Starcraft 2 (or whatever RTS suits your taste) without fog of war. Since everyone can know where everyone else is at all times they just nuke the **** ouf each other, which is fun for a while and then gets very boring very fast.

So yeah, removing local in nullsec at least would be cool in many ways.

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Originally by: Mortania

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Originally by: Infinity Ziona

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Originally by: Kaedama Katar

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Edited by: Kaedama Katar on 25/03/2011 08:59:54
Right now Eve is like Starcraft 2 (or whatever RTS suits your taste) without fog of war. Since everyone can know where everyone else is at all times they just nuke the **** ouf each other, which is fun for a while and then gets very boring very fast.

So yeah, removing local in nullsec at least would be cool in many ways.

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Exactly.

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If by "Exactly." you mean "Exactly the wrong type of comparison", then we're in agreement.

See... in starcraft both players are engaged in the exact same actions. In EVE, they aren't, or in regards to what this change would incur, they aren't.

If you're talking about hunting groups fighting hunting groups, sure it changes things, but I have to believe mostly for the worst. You'll have roaming groups moving about hoping to run into other roaming groups.
As I've stated several times in this thread, it effectively eliminates solo carebear play. Yes, it might make group carebear versus group hunter play mildly more interesting, but it still throws it way in the balance of the hunter.

Which would be fine if there was a massive imbalance for the prey right now. There isn't.

Read my previous post. 20 seconds and you can be on top of someone ratting or sanctuming or mining. That's an easily overcome gap of attention. That's not some wildly imbalanced situation. People lose ships as prey all the time now.

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